You are not logged in. Please register or login.
- Topics: Active | Unanswered
#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » Budweiser City » 545 weeks ago
I dont see the problem, it's not like he was in a song with paulina rubio.
#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » Leaked GN'R Songs Thread » 587 weeks ago
I would really appreciate if someone PM'd me
#3 Re: GN'R Downloads » Guns N' Roses - Live from The Joint in Las Vegas 12/30/11 (Video) » 672 weeks ago
thanks guys!
#4 Re: GN'R Downloads » Guns N' Roses - Live from The Forum in L.A. (VIDEO) » 673 weeks ago
thanks!
#5 Re: GN'R Downloads » Guns N' Roses - Live from The Forum in L.A. (AUDIO) » 673 weeks ago
Thanks mate!
#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » Kansas City - Sprint Center (Nov 12, 2011) » 679 weeks ago
Axl is sounding fucking amazing to me
#8 Re: The Garden » Next on the list: Uganda » 683 weeks ago
jppgnr wrote:School itself is a mean of indoctrination, you go there, receive the information, learn it and thats it. You cant object it, you cant say thats not true. You go there to learn not to debate or exchange information, its only a one way street.
THAT! That right there was all I was trying to say.
"History is full of shit"
I can't speak for your countries or others, but I know in America our history is so biased that even our history books are taught from a slant. That's all I was ever trying to say about "liberally biased".
Nice to see that we can agree on something, school as it is is shit.
I still dont get the "liberally biased" thou, are you using liberal as a bad thing? If liberals are bad, who would be the good guys?
Whats the opposite of liberal? Just curious.
#9 Re: The Garden » Next on the list: Uganda » 683 weeks ago
Hey man, I went to fuckin' school. I don't know what Republican cock suckin' pro-capitalist education you got, but the education I got was HEAVILY liberally biased. The only thing capitalist about it was how I was basically financially raped at knife point. It's amazing how liberal colleges are, yet when it comes to getting paid, suddenly they are pro-capitalist.
This is colleges as how they exist.
I would like to know what you mean by liberally biased, cause i get the feeling that maybe were talking about two different things.
And the bit about it being pro capitalist about getting paid, to me thats got nothing to do with anything, i see no contradiction in having liberal views and charging a hefty fee for an education. After al we live in a capitalist world. I have some liberal views and some other not so much, but because of those views doesnt mean i will charge you any less the work i do.
Maybe you see it differently, dont know.
My education from fuckin' birth, despite being financially pro-capitalist, was HEAVILY socially liberal. Brainwashed from birth about how whites owed something to minorities, Abe Lincoln freed the salves (which is utter bullshit), the Civil War was solely about slavery (which is bullshit), only Southern Americans are racists (which an enormous lie, that's almost contradictory to the truth), and I could go on...
I'm not gonna bore you with all of the socially liberal lies that were told to me. No different than the financially conservative lies that were told to me.
Dr. Martin Luther King said the most violently racist city he ever marched in was - CHICAGO.
The last school to stop segregated busing - BOSTON.
Abe Lincoln couldn't stand blacks, and hated the slavery issue and never wanted to touch. He eventually jumped on the abolitionist movement, because of pressure from his party, but even still thought it was a dead end that would hurt the country.
I got the same education you did then, cause i too was lied about certain things, like they paint a pristine portrait of someone that when you get older you learn of all the bad things he did, or the reasons why he did those actions.
In here we are tought that Sarmiento, was a former president and a strong advocate of education, he founded many many schools and made it mandatory for kids to go to them. Great.
But what they dont tell you is that he was a giant racist who believed in eropean supremacy and was kind of a mass murderer, he killed hundreds of thousands of natives.
The same shit you got, only that i dont see as a liberal things, to me its just that you cant teach a 7 year old those things. You got to lie, or ommit certain things.
In fact i see it as the opposite of liberal, what do liberal gain from perpetuating the myth?
Think what you would have tought if theyd told you those things as a little boy? Its wrong that they lie, but i dont see any other way. When you get older you end up learning all of it by yourself.
These are things American schools and colleges don't teach. They don't teach it, because it's not what they want you to know. They want you having the same indoctrination.
Even liberals, who preach tolorance and acceptance of all cultures (such as Argentina), still only do so because they think that you backwards, stone-throwing Argentinians need liberal Americans to "help save you".
I'm not kidding man. That's actually how they think.
If they think that theyre nuts, and know nothing about Argentina. Im 24 years old and ive never heard of someone in my country being stoned or even killed for being gay.
For instance Buenos Aires is statisticly saffer than most US big cities. This aint the middle east, this aint africa nor centroamerica.
Two years ago in my country gay marriage was made legal, and in all the territory. Not just some states.
School itself is a mean of indoctrination, you go there, receive the information, learn it and thats it. You cant object it, you cant say thats not true. You go there to learn not to debate or exchange information, its only a one way street.
And that's how you're post came across. The same boring, same old same old liberal indoctrination about American history. Very little of it is true, with maybe the exception of the homosexual issue.
But like Randall said, at least in America we allow gays to be able to say how upset they are at not having equality. In the middle east, they'd all just be killed. No one would ever dare to speak a word of coming out for fear of death.
And that ultimately has to count for something in America.
You have a great country i never said it was something else than that, and if my post came out like taht i apologize.
All i did was point out problems that your country had. and i did it as a response to randall.
I agree that the middle east is fucked up, really fucked up, i said it was a beautifull place and i got shit from randall, i never said it was awesome to live there o that it was better than the US.
I think its awesome you let gay people say what they think, but maybe you should think about giving them what they want too.
All i was trying to say its that i was sick of the US meddling in other countries bussines, i said i was againt the war in iraq, i never said i was against the troops or soldiers who risk their lives.
A lot of americans say the same thing "i support the troops but im against the war".
And im against the war cause i think that yeah, on a personal or individual level, soldiers went to iraq to free its people. But i believe that as a country that wasnt your motivation.
You went there for oil. Thats what i think. Im sorry.
#10 Re: The Garden » Next on the list: Uganda » 683 weeks ago
Dude, you make no sense at all. You accuse the US of policing the world, then use the fact that we didn't take Sadam out, only ousted him from Kuwait, as a bad thing the US did. Which is it, cause you're arguments make no sense. You're just launching assaults against the US and have nothing to back them up.
Newsflash! A good country takes care of their own. They look out for their interest. That's what any nation should do. Giving a rat's ass and "helping" other nations falls under that braod category of policing the world. You know, the thing you attack the US for.
So take a step back and rethink you argument because they fall flat on their face when held up to scrutiny. You hate the US so much, yet we're the only superpower in the history of the world not to go around declaring every soil we touch as our own. The nations we come to are better off when we're done. And if you knew a god damn thing about reality instead of bullshit check lists admonishing the US, you'd know that. Iraq for example, has better productivity and and resources now than they did before the US invasion. And they also have that thing called democracy, the think you're trying to tout about your own country now. Again, you contradict yourself. You claim the US installed Sadam, I told you you're wrong, so you change up your claim (with no facts by the way), but coincidentally, who removed Sadam from power and allowed the Iraqis to hold votes to dtermine their own fate? That's right, the same guys you claim installed their dictator. So on one hand you accuse us of policing the world, then bitch when we don't stop a country from killing their own.
Well fuck, based on corruption indexes, maybe we should add your nation to the list. Of all the fucked up things in America, effective voter fraud and government corruption aren't plagues. When a US elected official tweets a picture of his dick, we get rid of them, let alone the ones caught doing actual illegal shit. In argentina, it's business as usual.
And although once again you're wrong about half the world wanting to kill us (recent surveys shwo the US as one of the most liked nations in the world), those shitty nations that do really dislike us (and thank god you're not indicative of your nation) don't stand a rats ass. Let Iran and N. Korea try something.
And the whole China thing, yea they're entirely dependent on the US. That whole currency and ownership thing some people like to tout is bullshit. China tries to pull the rug out from us, they hurt themselves alot more. China may have 2 billion people, but they have 2 billion poorly educated people who wouldn't be able to compete with the US on a level playing field and would have their asses handed to them in a war.
But I'm really just replying to the angry rhetoric of a confused an uninformed member of a nation that really doesn't matter. Besides a hideout for Nazis and the basis for a shitty Madonna song in 96, Argentina and its citizens haven't really added much to the progress of our species.
Game.
Set.
Match.Flagg wins!
I dont hate you Flagg, i got no problem with you or americans. Yes i dont like the US being the world police, that is true, but why when you had the chance to take him out after Kuwait you didnt? I see no contradiction in asking that, you where already there, why let him stay? By that time he'd commited all of the horrible things he was accused. He was a monster then as he was in 2003. Why wait 12 years, all im asking?
When you went in 2003 US intelligence said he had WMD's, none where found. What changed? What made you go there?
Ok, they have better productivity now, great, but they also have suicide bombings every other week, thats what im saying when i say theyre worst now than before.
This is from 2008 http://reliefweb.int/node/261495 i would like to know how much has changed.
This too http://www.globalpolicy.org/iraq/humani … risis.html
About the whole better productivity thing, i wanna know how much of the money being made goes to the population of iraq and how much goes to big corporations(US corp. or non US, the same). Being the corporationes there helps the people change their lives? Or theyre cheap labor, and are employed only on small jobs.
Of all the money being made out of oil, (thats all they have right? no gold, or any other resources) how much of that serves the iraqi government to modernize or help rebuild their nation.
I dont want the US to fail in iraq, i hope they can grow as a nation. I just dont see it happening, i hope im proved wrong maybe in the future years and ill be happy with it.
IN the end thats all that bothers me, why knowing of the atrocities he was responsible you backed him up, and then one day said, umm saddam is bad lets take him out.
The whole Newsflash! A good country takes care of their own. They look out for their interest. That's what any nation should do. i just dont get it.
Are you saying that if america has a particular interest in a foreign country, you can just take it?
Nice to hear how much you apreciate Argentina.
There arent voter fraud problems in argentina, and if there are, theyre of the same magnitude of the Bush/Gore problem. When someone cried fraud and in the end there where none or it was infimal.
The corruption you speak comes from a Corruption Perceptions Index, there are corruption problems, but they arent as widespread as people are led believe.
Weve indeed added our fair share of things to the progress of our species as you say, fingerprint identification system, the bus, blood transfusion. the first effective helicopter in aviation history, coronary artery bypass surgery and others. We're sorry we're not up to your standards, but at least we tried.